Two responses to yesterdya's question about sign conventions....DMD ____________________________________ Subject: Re: two questions Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 12:04:19 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Steve Halperin With respect to Jim's question, I am used to calling it the Koszul convention. Koszul himself may know the reference, but so should Lemaire. steve halperin On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 11:29:46 -0400 Don Davis wrote: > Subject: query > Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 11:36:21 -0400 > From: jim stasheff > > With regard to the convention that the interchange > rule for any two graded thing: > > I wrote an author: > > The sign convention you use is more usually called Koszul's or Mac > Lane's. > > He responded: > ``Finding the proper reference for this convention > would cause me a lot of trouble. > Do you know the source of the sign rule?'' > > For graded algebras, graded commutativity used this sign long long ago > e.g. at least in the wedge product of diff forms > but who first used it for e.g. moving a function past an element? > > ( f \otimes g) (x \otimes y) = (-1)^{ deg g deg s} f(x) \otimes g(y) > > ?? > > and who first ennuciated it as a general principle? > > I remember at IAS aftr the summer of foliation in Mexico there was > ` a fundamental contradiciton' in math because people had NOT applied > the rule consistently > > jim > ________________________________________________ ---------------------- Steve Halperin, Dean shalper@deans.umd.edu ____________________________________________ Subject: Re: two questions Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 17:23:02 -0700 From: Hans Samelson I remember from "way back" when Eilenberg and Maclane started their collaboration that they sent around a flyer to all mathematicians explaining (as I remember) that the interchange rule had become so all pervasive that they proposed the Weierstrass p as the universal symbol for the parity of an object x (in the form p(x) ), instead of the many ( - 1)^degree, ( - 1)^|...| and other ad hoc expressions. (It didn't pass.) ---- Another candidate for who stated the general rule: Mike Boardman. Hans Samelson