Subject: Re: Jeff Smith's email From: Nils Barth Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:04:28 -0600 To: Don Davis Dear Jeff (and mailing list readers), I'm not disputing that these results are true, standard and easy; however, the argument you outline confused me and others. You state two "therefores" that are either false or require elaboration. Let me explain my confusion, and a possible resolution. Your claim is: Smooth(M,N) < Cont(M,N) is a weak homotopy equivalence. (where Smooth, Cont mean the spaces of smooth/continuous maps, respectively, and < means subset) Here's how I read your argument: - Smooth(M,N) < Cont(M,N) is dense - and so every path in Cont(M,N) can be approximated by a path in Smooth(M,N) It's the "and so" that I object to: just because X < Y is dense does not mean that every path in Y can be approximated by a path in X. Now perhaps what you meant is: - a continuous path in Cont(M,N) is the same as an element of Cont(I x M, N), via the adjunction Hom(X,Hom(M,N)) = Hom(X x M, N) ...and likewise for smooth paths - I x M is also a manifold! - Smooth(I x M, N) < Cont(I x M, N) is dense - thus every continous path in Cont(M,N) can be approximated by a smooth path in Smooth(M,N) This is still not quite enough: we've replaced a continuous homotopy between two smooth functions f,g by a nearby smooth homotopy between two NEARBY functions. We need a relative statement: let X, Y be manifolds, K < X a closed subset. Given a continuous map H: X -> Y that is smooth on K, there is a nearby smooth function H~: X -> Y that agrees with H on K. [This is Kosinski's 2.5(b); note that by "nearby" he doesn't just use one epsilon, but a functional on Y (since he doesn't assume compact).] The result we want follows by letting X = I x M Y = N K = {0} x M union {1} x M H restricted to K = two smooth functions f, g H = the continuous homotopy between f, g and then H~ is the nearby smooth homotopy between f and g. [This is Kosinski's Corollary 2.6; note that he doesn't give a proof of the Corollary, and so it was filling in the details that I understood (I presume) our confusion.] * * * * * * * So perhaps the confusion was that you meant: smooth maps are dense in continuous maps in particular, Smooth(I x M, N) is dense in Cont(I x M, N) ...and I didn't fill this in in my head, and you didn't think it bore elaboration. * * * * * * * On the other statement, that density (and density of paths) implies homotopy equivalence, is wrong without added conditions: Consider X = {1/n : n in N} and Y = X union {0} Then - X is dense in Y - for all n, Hom(I^n, X) = X, Hom(I^n, Y) = Y [as X and Y are both totally disconnected] so Hom(I^n, X) is dense in Hom(I^n, Y) - but X -> Y is not a weak homotopy equivalence: it's not even onto pi_0 Admittedly this is a gross point-set example, but I don't know enough about the point-set topology of function spaces to reject this out of hand. * * * * * * * Hopefully this explains my concerns; if I'm missing something and you've the time to elaborate, I'd be appreciative. best, nils >> Subject: Re: 3 postings >> From: Jeffrey H Smith >> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:34:47 -0500 (EST) >> >> JFC >> >> These are standard results from the fifties and sixties. The space of >> smooth maps is dense in the space of continuous functions and so the every >> continuous family of maps can be approximated within epsilon by a smooth >> family of maps. From which it follows that the space of smooth maps is >> weak equivalent to the space of continuous maps.