Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 00:17:04 -0500 From: Gaunce Lewis Subject: Re: associativity With regard to Mike Cole's msg about Q smash Q and Q smash N: Neither of these spaces is first countable at the basepoint. This is rather easy to see with Q smash N using a Cantor diagonal trick. Think of Q x N as the rational points on the horizontal lines y =n in the x-y plane. Let U be a nbhd of the basepoint in Q smash N, and let V be its inverse image in Q x N. Clearly V contains the rational points on the x-axis and the rational points on each line y=n in some interval about the y-axis (the interval can, of course, vary with n). Assume that {U_n}_n is a countable neighborhood basis for the topology at the basepoint in Q smash N and let V_n be the inverse image in Q x N of U_n. Define the open set W in Q x N to consist of the rational points on the x-axis and, for each n, the rational points on an interval on the line y=n about the y-axis that is half the length of an interval on that line contained in V_n. Clearly, W contains no V_n and its image in Q smash N contains no U_n. Nevertheless, the image of W in Q smash N is a nbhd of the basepoint. Thus, Q smash N is not first countable. The argument for Q smash Q is a bit messier, but essentially the same idea. Best wishes, Gaunce