Two more responses re delta sets, etc.....DMD _____________________________________________ Subject: Re: facial sets Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 10:11:12 -0100 From: "Carlos.SIMPSON" Since noone seems to have found an already-existing standard (the terminology ``Delta set'' suffers from the fact that the standard notation for the usual simplicial category (with degeneracies) is $\Delta$), here is a suggestion: ``facial sets''. This is somewhat like ``face complex'' but could apply to other objects eg ``facial groups'' etc... ---Carlos Simpson _________________________________________________ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:34:07 -0500 (EST) From: James Stasheff Subject: Re: response re delta sets what about the distinction between the fat realization and the thin?? .oooO Jim Stasheff jds@math.unc.edu (UNC) Math-UNC (919)-962-9607 \ ( Chapel Hill NC FAX:(919)-962-2568 \*) 27599-3250 http://www.math.unc.edu/Faculty/jds On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, DON DAVIS wrote: > From: Jeff Smith > Subject: Re: delta sets > Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:10:20 -0500 (EST) > > > > > Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 14:50:49 -0500 (EST) > > From: Allen Hatcher - Math Prof > > > Subject: Delta set terminology > > > > Here's a comment for the discussion list: > > > > Concerning the Delta set terminology: A related issue is what to call the > > geometric incarnations of Delta sets. These are CW complexes with special > > structure. In Brayton Gray's book they are called "semisimplicial CW > > complexes." Does anyone know of other names in the literature? > > > > These geometric objects occur rather often in the algebraic topology > > textbook I'm writing, so I wanted a shorter name and chose to call them > > "Delta complexes" since they are somewhere between simplicial complexes > > and CW complexes, and they are logically the same as Rourke and > > Sanderson's Delta sets. I hope the new terminology doesn't muddy the > > waters too much. In any event, the geometric concept seems extremely > > useful as well as natural, so it deserves to have its own name, and this > > is my candidate. > > > > Allen Hatcher > > > > > One comment, the CW-complexes that arise as the geometric realization of a > Delta set are the same CW-complexes that arise as the geometric realization > of a simplicial set. In fact there is a functor sending the the Delta set > X to the simplicial set sX such that the geometric realization of the Delta > set X is the same CW-complex as the geometric realization of the siplicial set > sX. > > Geometrically there is no difference between Delta sets and > simplicial sets. > > > Jeff Smith > > >