2 responses to the question about the bar construction.......DMD ________________________________________________ Subject: Re: question abt bar construction Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 17:37:52 +0100 (MET) From: Johannes.Huebschmann@agat.univ-lille1.fr (Johannes Huebschmann) Answer to Palmeri's question: Eilenberg-Mac Lane's description of the bar construction may be found e. g. in: On the groups H(\pi,n), I. Annals of Math. 58 (1953) 55-106. In this paper, the suspension is hidden in what is called "simplicial dimension". Given A, an element [a_1|a_2| ... |a_m] of BA has "tensor dimension" |a_1|+ ... + |a_m| and simplicial dimension m; thus, when q=|a_1|+ ... + |a_m|, the element [a_1|a_2| ... |a_m] lies in B_{m,q}. The operator d_0 has bidegree (0,-1) while the operator d_1 has bidegree (-1,0). Thus the correct bidegree of sA_{i_1} \otimes sA_{i_2} \otimes ...\otimes sA_{i_m} is (m,i_1+i_2+...+i_m). HUEBSCHMANN Johannes Professeur de Mathématiques USTL, UFR de Mathématiques UMR 8524 AGAT F-59 655 Villeneuve d'Ascq Cédex France TEL. (33) 3 20 43 41 97 (33) 3 20 43 42 33 (secretariat) (33) 3 20 43 48 50 (secretariat) Fax (33) 3 20 43 43 02 e-mail Johannes.Huebschmann@agat.univ-lille1.fr ______________________________________________________ Subject: Re: question abt bar construction Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 13:49:11 -0500 From: Tom Goodwillie Two ways to look at it, and you just have to stick with one or the other: First way: BA is the direct sum of the tensor powers of I. It is bigraded: First grading is "tensor-length". Second grading is "internal grading". So if a_i is in degree n_i in A then [a_1|...|a_k] is in bidegree (k,n_1+...n_k). The differentials have bidegrees (0,-1) and (-1,0). Total degree means the sum of the two degrees. Second way: BA is the direct sum of the tensor powrers of sI. It is bigraded: First grading is "tensor-length". Second grading is "internal grading". So if a_i is in degree n_i in A then [sa_1|...|sa_k] is in bidegree (k,k+ n_1+...n_k). The differentials have bidegrees (0,-1) and (-1,-1). Total degree means the internal grading.